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“I credit you with turning me into a profitable trader…”

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Dear Michael,

I really liked your analogy of the waves.

I day trade CFD with 500:1 leverage. Wow! I’m still alive and profitable. My “Seascape” system draws on my experience learning to surf in Malibu. As a surfer the “Waves” are what you see. In trading these are the candlesticks, various moving averages and Bollinger Bands. The “Currents” are what you cannot see but when in the water standing on the sand you feel them. Tide going out? Current heading me towards the rocks? In trading the “Currents” are the things you cannot see clearly. But you sense them when price doesn’t move up much but MACD, OsMA, Stochastics, RSI, A/D, OBV, MFI, Volume histogram, ADX, etc. give the game away – big money is quietly accumulating. Price is likely to move up.

Sorry, but I never subscribed to your service – but I credit you with turning me into a profitable trader. Your emails and podcasts drilled a hole in my head. Thanks!

If you ever come to the French Riviera, I owe you a significant lunch.

Best,
Robin

500:1? Ouch!


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“Showing up is eighty percent of success…”

Everyone wants the home run. They want the outlier trade that changes their net worth in a single month. They want the “White Lotus” moment.

But nobody wants to do what it takes to get there.

I was reading about Mike White recently. You might know him as the creator of the massive HBO hit The White Lotus. Everyone calls him a genius now. They look at the awards and the ratings and assume he just walked onto the set and made magic happen.

They ignore the math.

Before that hit show, White spent twenty five years eating losses. He had a show called Enlightened canceled after two seasons. A sitcom called Cracking Up was pulled halfway through season one. Another drama aired four episodes before the network killed it.

That is a lot of small losses. That is a lot of drawdowns.

For a quarter of a century, he was grinding. Pitching pilots that never got picked up. Writing scripts that died on a desk somewhere. In the trading world, we call this the whipsaw. This is the cost of doing business. You take a small loss. You take another small loss. You feel like you are treading water while everyone else tells you to give up and get a “real job” with a steady paycheck.

But White didn’t quit. He understood the probability game even if he wasn’t looking at a price chart.

When asked how it felt to finally have a global sensation after decades of disappointment, he gave the perfect Trend Following analogy:

“I just feel like I’m like a surfer who’s been in the ocean for 25 years and suddenly caught a wave. And you know, if you stay out there long enough, you’re going to catch a wave.”

Read that again.

If you stay out there long enough.

Most people are not willing to stay in the water. They want to predict when the wave is coming from the safety of the beach. They watch CNBC. They read the fundamental reports. They try to time their entry perfectly so they never have to get wet and never have to feel the cold shock of a losing trade.

They want the gain without the pain.

But you cannot catch a wave from the sand. You have to be out there, floating on the board, looking like an idiot when the waves are flat. You have to be willing to paddle for a wave, miss it, and paddle back out.

This is the essence of Trend Following. We are not predicting the market direction. I don’t know if gold is going to 3000 or 1500 next month. I don’t know if the S&P 500 is going to crash tomorrow.

I just know that eventually, a wave comes.

History proves it. Human nature proves it. Markets move in trends because people are emotional and irrational. There will always be a boom. There will always be a panic.

Mike White didn’t know The White Lotus was going to be the one. He just kept placing bets. He kept his position size manageable (he kept writing) and he stayed in the game. When the trend finally hit, he was positioned to ride it all the way to the bank.

If he had quit in year 24, he would be a footnote. Because he stayed for year 25, he is a legend.

Trading is no different. You cut your losses short. You keep your powder dry. You accept that most of your trades might be break-even or small losers. You accept that you might go months without a major winner.

But when that trend catches, when you finally hook onto that outlier move that goes on for months or years? It pays for every single false start. It pays for every canceled pilot. It pays for the 25 years of waiting.

Don’t try to outsmart the ocean. Just stay in the water.

Start paddling,
Michael Covel

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Showing up is 80% of success!

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Adnan

Yes!


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“Options trading is a zero-sum game, why should I join…”

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Hi,

I am considering to purchase the Essentials course but I have the following doubts: I am located in Spain, and the number of available ETFs are much less in Europe than in USA. Is the ETF module of your course still worthed it? Since options trading is a zero-sum game, why should I join it? (everybody will have more experience than me).

Thanks.

Two issues. The Turtles proved nurture trumps nature. And the zero sum game is winnable with trend following.


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“Does the system you’re selling include the actual trend following systems with rules, entries, exits, risk management…”

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Hey Michael,

I apologize in advance for the length of this email, but I am wrestling with two issues and hope you can provide guidance. I have read or listened to your Little Book of Trading, Complete Turtle Trader, Trend Following, Trend Following Master 1, and I am about to start Trend Commandments, and then go to the book you did with Basso. I am considering purchasing your course as well. I love the idea of trend following and have been doing it with stocks without knowing the appropriate name for it.

The first thing I keep coming back to is that almost every trader you have on talks about the importance of everything else besides entries & exits, often saying that it is the least important thing. They say it doesn’t matter as much as other aspects of trend following, such as risk management and the psychology associated with trading. They say there are no secrets and no holy grails. However, they then refuse to talk about their entries and exits. I can’t square that circle in my mind, and I am hoping you can help me. I understand them emphasizing the other parts of trend following, especially the money management/risk, and psychology. I also understand that you don’t want to share proprietary information, but I keep hearing the same refrain of there being no secrets and entries/exits aren’t important, and then on the other hand, not talk about it. Besides what Seykota said about not wanting people to just take those rules and run with them, and not learn the other, more important stuff, I haven’t heard a justification – or maybe I am missing something?

Second is this – I am sold on the concept of trend following – it fits my investing personality of taking small losses and riding the payoffs. I have a deep understanding of psychology (my background is in sport psychology, which is what I earned my master’s in), and I have coached high school and college football. I serve as a consultant for NFL and college teams and work with athletes on goal-setting, performance anxiety, and everything in between, so the cognitive biases are at the forefront of my mind. I don’t believe the markets are efficient, and it irks me when people say, “You can’t beat the markets, look at all these mutual funds.” Well, I am not a mutual fund that has to hug an index, and I can go to cash anytime I want. I have had great success picking stocks in my first three years of investing, beating the Nasdaq by double every year. It wasn’t particular skill – I was very lucky (I invested in two plucky little start-ups called NVIDIA and Palantir).

Anyway, I say all of this to say that I know I can beat the market by picking stocks. However, I am not sure I can beat the trend followers in the futures market. I am a MASSIVE Cliff Asness fan, and have spoken to people at AQR on multiple occasions. I worked with Larry Swedroe, who helped me select some of AQR’s alts for my alts sleeve, including their HV Managed Futures fund in my Roth. Unlike these massive mutual funds, the futures market is more limited, and AQR can do whatever it wants – it can go long, short, go to cash, etc. I know this might be a silly question, but can someone like me beat AQR’s (and its 400 PhDs) Managed Futures HV or Total Trend fund? Would it be worth just investing in their products, rather than trying to do it myself? What advantage would I have in doing it on my own? Is there an advantage?

Lastly, does the system you’re selling include the actual trend following systems with rules, entries, exits, risk-management stops, etc.? Does it have the tools to build them in TradeStation or similar platforms? On a sidenote, I got with George Pruitt, and I built my first systematic trend following system in TradeStation using the original turtle rules – I know they don’t work like they used to, but I wanted to test that I could build something and make it work first, and it has been a lot of fun!

I appreciate you taking the time to read this long ass message. I have really enjoyed your work! I hope to hear from you soon!

Vass

Thanks for the nice note.

Yes. All rules. All systems. Read here.


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If I’m on a desert island, when I see a water source, I will hand wash my laundry. But in my apartment I will use the washing machine.

Chart readers are out there! Sorry, it doesn’t work. Trend following ain’t chart reading or chart prediction.


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“What drew me to the Turtle Traders was realizing that intelligence or prediction wasn’t the…”

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Greetings Mr. Covel,

My biggest trading challenge right now is disciplined execution through uncertainty and limited capital.

What drew me to the Turtle Traders was realizing that intelligence or prediction wasn’t the edge—rules, risk management, and survival were. I’m currently focused on trend following principles: accepting frequent small losses, controlling risk tightly, and learning to let winners run without interference.

Where I’m still developing is consistency—executing the same rules through drawdowns without shrinking winners or forcing trades. Capital constraints make that process more psychologically demanding, but I’m deliberately working within those limits rather than fighting them.

That shift—from trying to be right to focusing on process—has been the most important change in my trading so far.

Best regards,

Moises

I can help.


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